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Hitlerova naredba za napad na Jugoslaviju i Grcku
« poslato: Decembar 09, 2007, 02:18:20 posle podne »
Berlin, April 6, 1941

SOLDIERS OF THE SOUTHEAST FRONT:

Since early this morning the German people are at war with the Belgrade government of intrigue. We shall only lay down arms when this band of ruffians has been definitely and most emphatically eliminated, and the last Briton has left this part of the European Continent, and that these misled people realize that they must thank Britain for this situation, they must thank England, the greatest warmonger of all time. The German people can enter into this new struggle with the inner satisfaction that its leaders have done everything to bring about a peaceful settlement.

We pray to God that He may lead our soldiers on the path and bless them as hitherto.

In accordance with the policy of letting others fight for her, as she did in the case of Poland, Britain again tried to involve Germany in the struggle in which Britain hoped that she would finish off the German people once and for all, to win the war, and if possible to destroy the entire German Army.

In a few weeks long ago the German soldiers on the Eastern Front, Poland, swept aside this instrument of British policy. On April 9, 1940, Britain again attempted to reach its goal by a thrust on the German north flank, the thrust at Norway.

In an unforgettable struggle the German soldiers in Norway eliminated the British within a period of a few weeks.

What the world did not deem possible the German people have achieved. Again, only a few weeks later, Churchill thought the moment right to make a renewed thrust through the British Allies, France and Belgium, into the German region of the Ruhr. The victorious hour of our soldiers on the West Front began.

It is already war history how the German Armies defeated the legions of capitalism and plutocracy. After forty-five days this campaign in the West was equally and emphatically terminated.

Then Churchill concentrated the strength of his Empire against our ally, Italy, in Africa. Now the danger has also been banned from the African theater of the war through the cooperation of Italian and German units.

The new aim of the British warmongers now consists of the realization of a plan that they had already hatched at the outbreak of the war and only postponed because of the gigantic victories of the German Army. The memory of the landing of British troops at Salonika in the course of the first World War also caught little Greece in the spider web of British intrigue.

I have repeatedly warned of the attempt by the British to land troops in Southeastern Europe, and I have said that this constitutes a threat to the German Reich. Unfortunately this warning went unheeded by the Yugoslav nation. I have further tried, always with the same patience, to convince Yugoslav statesmen of the absolute necessity for their cooperation with the German Reich for restoration of lasting peace and order within Yugoslavia.

After long effort we finally succeeded in securing the cooperation of Yugoslavia by its adherence to the Tripartite Pact without having demanded anything whatsoever of the Yugoslav nation except that it take its part in the reconstruction of a new order in Europe.

At this point the criminal usurpers of the new Belgrade government took the power of the State unto themselves, which is a result of being in the pay of Churchill and Britain. As in the case of Poland, this new Belgrade government has mobilized decrepit and old people into their inner Cabinet. Under these circumstances I was forced immediately to recall the German national colony within Yugoslav territory.

Members and officers of the German Embassy, employees of our consulates in Yugoslavia, were daily being subjected to the most humiliating attacks. The German schools, exactly as in Poland, were laid in ruins by bandits. Innumerable German nationals were kidnapped and attacked by Yugoslavs and some even were killed.

In addition, Yugoslavia for weeks has planned a general mobilization of its army in great secrecy. This is the answer to my eight-year-long effort to bring about closer cooperation and friendship with the Yugoslav people, a task that I have pursued most fastidiously.

When British divisions were landed in Greece, just as in World War days, the Serbs thought the time was ripe for taking advantage of the situation for new assassinations against Germany and her allies.

Soldiers of the Southeast Front: Now your zero hour has arrived. You will now take the interests of the German Reich under your protection as your comrades did a year ago in Norway and on the West Front. You will do just as well on the Southeast Front.

In doing this, your duty, you will not be less courageous than the men of those German divisions who in 1915, on the same Balkan soil, fought so victoriously. You will be humane only in those places where the enemy is humane toward you. Where the enemy confronts you with utter brutality you will beat them back with the same weapon.

The fight on Greek soil is not a battle against the Greek people, but against that archenemy, England, which is again trying to extend the war far into the Southeast Balkans, the same as he tried far in the north last year. For this reason, on this very spot in the Balkans, we shall fight shoulder to shoulder with our ally until the last Briton has found his Dunkerque in Greece.

If any Greeks support this British course, then those Greeks will fall at the same time as the British.

When the German soldier shall have proved himself, shall have proved that he is capable of beating the British in the Balkans, in the midst of snow and mountains, then also he will have proved that he can beat the British in the heat of the desert in Africa.

However, we will pursue no other ultimate aim than to win freedom for our German people and to secure a living-space for the German family.

The prayers and thoughts, the very life of all Germans, are again in the heart of every German soldier.
History will be kind to me for I intend to write it. - Winston Churchill

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« Odgovor #1 poslato: Decembar 09, 2007, 02:20:31 posle podne »
Kao i uvek, mi trpimo intrige velikih sila...
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« Odgovor #2 poslato: Decembar 09, 2007, 06:58:28 posle podne »
Eh kad ?itam ovo vidim kakvu smo glupost tad napravili,***** nas Britanci,moramo mi da se trpamo gdje ne treba.
« Poslednja izmena: Decembar 09, 2007, 08:41:46 posle podne !ACHTUNG! »
Municije nestalo.Oruzje i oprema unisteni.Prema primljenim naredjenjima DAK se borio dok je mogao.Njemacki Africki korpus mora ponovo uskrsnuti!HEIA SAFARI!

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« Odgovor #3 poslato: Decembar 09, 2007, 08:42:32 posle podne »
Oni su vrsili pritisak od pocetka... Zeleli su zajednicki front nas, Grka i Turaka... E
Mada, pitanje je da li bi Hitler postao nasu neutralnost...
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« Odgovor #4 poslato: Decembar 09, 2007, 08:51:54 posle podne »
Da znam,ali Grci su morali u rat jer ih je Italija napala,oni nisu imali šta birati.Turci nisu ni ušli u rat.Ali mi,mislim,ko nas je tjerao,i to u to vrijeme 1941 kada je Njema?ka na vrhuncu mo?i a sve zbog nekakvih engleskih pritisaka,a koji nam naravno nisu ni pomogli,izme?u ostalog jer i nisu imali s ?im.Blesav,samoubila?ki potez.?ak ni Rusi nisu tad bili u ratu s Njemcima.
A i kad se pogleda sve zemlje su ratovale protiv Njemaca tek kad su bile napadnute naravno izuzev Francuske i Engleske.
Pa mi baš i ne bi bili neutralni,bili bi ?lan trojnog pakta,pasivni ?lan ali ipak ?lan.
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« Odgovor #5 poslato: Decembar 09, 2007, 08:56:56 posle podne »
Gotovo da sam siguran da bi nas Hitler stavio pod nemacku kontrolu sa pojacavanjem britanskog uticaja. Ali to mozda i nije toliko problem. Najveci problem jeste sto smo rasuli vojsku po celoj Kraljevini, automatski osudivsi jednu drzavu koja se stvarno borila, nas, na propast.

Najbolja "verzija" bi bilo ocuvanje te ratne neutralnosti sve dok se ne bi Rusi priblizili. Pa Rumuni su stali na stranu Rusa kad je bilo potrebno...
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« Odgovor #6 poslato: Decembar 09, 2007, 09:06:07 posle podne »
U pravu si,sigurno bi pali pod žestok Njema?ki uticaj kao i sve zemlje koje su bile u okviru trojnog pakta.Možda bi i neke dalmatinske gradove trebali dati Italiji ali danas kad se pogleda vidi se kolika je to greška bila,šta me briga za neke dalmatinske gradove.Da i to razbacivanje jedinica,želja da se brani sve,ma ta vjera u Jugoslaviju nas je puno koštala.
Da Rumuni,ili još bolje Bugari,oni ?ak i nisu ratovali protiv Rusa,a ?im su ovi došli na Dunav mjenjaju stranu.
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Odg: Hitlerova naredba za napad na Jugoslaviju i Grcku
« Odgovor #7 poslato: Decembar 09, 2007, 11:16:28 posle podne »
Najbolja "verzija" bi bilo ocuvanje te ratne neutralnosti sve dok se ne bi Rusi priblizili. Pa Rumuni su stali na stranu Rusa kad je bilo potrebno...

Plasim se da ne bi islo tako. Skoro da sam 100% siguran da bi NDH "iskrsla" i da smo zadrzali neutralnost...
... Boricemo se u Francuskoj, na morima i okeanima, boriti sa sve vecim samopouzdanjem i sve jacim snagama u vazduhu, branicemo nase ostrvo, ma kakva da bude cena. Boricemo se na obalama, na mestima za iskrcavanja, na poljima i po ulicama , boriti u brdima; nikada se necemo predati ...

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« Odgovor #8 poslato: Decembar 10, 2007, 11:05:43 pre podne »
ko bi znao sta bi bilo, ali cinjenica je da smo izabrali najgore resenja

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« Odgovor #9 poslato: Decembar 10, 2007, 09:35:22 posle podne »
Najbolja "verzija" bi bilo ocuvanje te ratne neutralnosti sve dok se ne bi Rusi priblizili. Pa Rumuni su stali na stranu Rusa kad je bilo potrebno...

Plasim se da ne bi islo tako. Skoro da sam 100% siguran da bi NDH "iskrsla" i da smo zadrzali neutralnost...

Ne bi NDH iskrsla jer su nju Njemci osnovali,a da nije bilo napada na Jugoslaviju ne bi je bili ni u prilici osnovati jer jednostavno tada bi njihov saveznik bila Jugoslavija ?lan trojnog pakta.
Jednostavno nisu oni osnovali NDH iz neke ljubavi,ve? kada su jednostavno prigrlili još jednog recimo saveznika odn.potr?ka koji im se nudio,malo topovskog mesa nikad ne škodi.
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« Odgovor #10 poslato: Decembar 09, 2008, 10:27:41 posle podne »
Ponuda Britanaca je zaista bila i realna i primamljiva,sve je podsecalo na otvaranje novog "Solunskog Fronta"Britanci su se iskrcali u Grcku sa velikom i dobro opremljenom i veteranskom armijom koju su povukli iz Afrike u cilju prave podrske svojih saveznika Yugoslavije i Grcke,naime Britanci su ovom akcijom naj vise ugrozili sami sebe jer od trenutka povlacenja iskusnih jedinica u Grcku,Rommel je uspeo da zauzme dobar deo Severne Afrike sto mu do tada i nije polazilio za rukom......
Ali gen.Dusan Simovic [verovatno Brit.agent ili sl.] je napravio prevrat upravo verujuci da sada kada su Britanci dosli na Balkan,postoji velika sansa da se YU ne prikljuci Trojnom paktu vec da se bori sa svojim tradicionalnim saveznicima,naravno Nemci su osujetili Britanski plan i sve je otislo do .......
Zelim samo da kazem da ne treba misliti da su nas Britanci nesto izigrali,vec  jednostavno Nemci su bili brzi.........Britanski plan je bio u naj boljoj nameri a sad sto nije uspeo to je druga prica,uglavnom njihova Balkanska kampanja ih je kostala cele severne Afrike,a mogli su proci i gore zbog toga.

Sto se mene licno tice ,smatram opravdano da je Nemacka uvek bila i ostala nas naj prirodniji saveznik i da je prava steta sto smo umesto sa njima ratovali protiv njih,kroz nasu istoriju mnogo dugujemo Nemcima za ovo sto smo sada i njima treba zahvaliti za mnogo toga.......e sada sto zbog nepoznavanja istorije nas narod o Nemcima misli to sto misli.....i to je druga prica...

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« Odgovor #11 poslato: Decembar 10, 2008, 07:36:32 pre podne »
Čerčil u memoarima spominje da su oni pokušavali da stupe u kontakt sa našom komandom posle prevrata a da naši nisu hteli da sarađuju. Jel zna neko o čemu se tu radi ?
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« Odgovor #12 poslato: Decembar 10, 2008, 12:14:11 posle podne »
Čerčil u memoarima spominje da su oni pokušavali da stupe u kontakt sa našom komandom posle prevrata a da naši nisu hteli da sarađuju. Jel zna neko o čemu se tu radi ?

"britain and Belgrade Coup......."
http://www.history.ac.uk/ejournal/Onslow.pdf

oni su bili u kontaktu sa nekim elementima komande, ali ne na vrhu komandnog lanca.

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« Odgovor #13 poslato: Decembar 10, 2008, 09:10:58 posle podne »
Nemam vremena da čitam knjigu od 29 strana, jel se pominje negde taj podatak ? Čini mi se da je knjiga o 27. martu a ovo se desilo posle prevrata.
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« Odgovor #14 poslato: Decembar 10, 2008, 09:43:37 posle podne »
Nemam vremena da čitam knjigu od 29 strana, jel se pominje negde taj podatak ? Čini mi se da je knjiga o 27. martu a ovo se desilo posle prevrata.

direktori su obicno zauzeti. a cercil u svojim memoarima nigde ne spominje tu recenicu. cak sta vise tvrdi da je prevrat napravio general mirkovic, a ne simovic